I thought Violet would have her kits before Paige did nope, and now I know why. Poor thing had four kits in there. I missed the first one. T-16 (m 45 grams white violet), was breech, Mom tried to get him out. She bit some of his tail off and bit foot, it was broken. Right after he was out she must have delivered T-17 (m 37 grams dark ebony). As soon as found T-16 I tried to save him but it was to late, he still had the sack over his head. So felt her tummy to see if she any left in there and she did. A minute or so later She delivered T-18 (m 39 grams looks like a light ebony). Violet was to tired to clean him so I had to. I thought she was done she cleaned her cage, well I just thought that she was cleaning her self, nope she had another one. T-19 (m 38 grams white violet). Again Violet was to tired to clean the kit so I had too. Mom and babies are now resting and are doing great. I will get some PICS later after they had some time together. Oh Violet is a light ebony v/c & Dad Fivel is white violet e/c.