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[GrayRodent]

You can send it to me (admin@chinchillaclub.com) and I'll format it to work or just make it 800x600px and use jpg and it should work. (Also requires some compression)

[GrayRodent]

Here are the photographs that were sent (cropped and formatted). I hope this will shed some more light on this.

[dozla]

vet has called in sick so have made another appointment for tmw morning, hopefully she will be back by then. I feed him some extra CC and his weight has started to go back up again so I am presuming that the pain for him to chew hard food is too much and he either needs stronger painkillers or to clip/remove tooth. Think I am going to ask for him to be knocked out so they can check his whole mouth thoroughly for sores, spikes etc  and deal with the tooth if there are no other issues.

I seem to the only person to have dealt with this kind of break

[GrayRodent]

Yeah I can understand that. Just think you're pet is pioneering in veterinary medicine!

[dozla]

So today we saw a different exotics vet and she said she feels the tooth will never grow back as the break is so low.. he has been prescribed Tramadol tablets for a week to see if stronger pain medication will get him eating his own food.. else he is being referred to a zoo specialist to have his incisors taken out and a cost of 300 pounds?! ouch!
I asked about a filling as they are starting to do them on dogs and cats now but she said that she feels that we are a few years away from doing chinchillas which sucks as that could fix it without a serious operation! I am going to put him forward as the first chinchilla to have a filling and see what they say.

[BLS Chins]

I have seen teeth broken that low that have grown back. i am always hesitant to follow advise of a vet who suggests pulling teeth. It's extremely hard to do without breaking their jaw. Have repeat x rays been done to check growth? Trimming inscissors is not a big deal for a knowledgeable vet and you can get in a routine of trimmings if the tooth didn't come back. In rare cases when a tooth breaks off that low it can lead to malo (due to damage if the root) in which case pulling the tooth is the only option to save the chin

[dozla]

The issue is that he isn't eating much hard food at all now only his kale and CC so they think that if they pull the bad tooth then he won't be in pain once that is healed. I am so scared about him having an operation but it will be a zoo/exotic specialist that would be doing it and he has done it alot of times before.
I am also worried about the tablets he is on as I've had to take them before and they made me feel very horrible and sick!
The vet has said that it hasn't broken down to the pulp but very close hence that it hurts so much.
She also said he is on the skinny side of healthy so they aren't worried about his weight at the moment.
He hasn't had any xrays.. just the pain medication so far and watching to see how he deals with it.
It's all so stressful at the moment

[GrayRodent]

I'm sorry about your stress. I think you have a really good chance of this working out and you're starting out with a healthy pet at a decent weight. If they do the bad tooth they'll have to pull the opposite tooth otherwise it will grow down into where the old tooth was and cause a major problem. Sounds like you've found a good experienced vet.

[dozla]

today he has had CC this morning, metacam and a tiny bit of CC just to get his tramadol into him.. they appear to make him abit sleepy so I have put various food around his cage nearer to him to encourage him to eat.. so far he has picked at his small pellets and some of his dried treats (twigs, dry grass type stuff) and a little kale, no hay yet but this seems encouraging.
Fingers crossed the tablets help him to start eating again as I am very reluctant to operate on him to remove teeth.
I am hoping that his tooth will grow back.. even though one vet thinks otherwise.

[BLS Chins]

You really need to get xrays done before you consider removing the tooth. If you cant see the pulp according to your vet then the tooth is not your main issue. Metacam is very good at handling pain so he should be eating if it is just his tooth. Your chin needs lab work and xrays done asap to decide what is really the problem. Feeding kale is also not a good idea. It can cause GI upset which would only complicate things at this point.

[dozla]

you can see the pulp the whole way down the tooth from top to bottom.. it just hasn't gone right through to it yet as she said its still hard and pulp is soft.
The exotic specialist vet told me to feed him kale?? that's the only reason I started.
His weight is sat at 600 grams at the moment so they said that they are happy with that weight and to see if they can get him comfortable enough eating only hard food and hay
I am 99.9% sure his roots are ok currently as he is showing no other symptoms of malo plus he is 9 years old so think it would have shown up way before now.
He is a very happy bouncy chin with no dribbling, eye issues, and no rapid weight loss so think it's currently being managed.. have vets again wednesday to discuss further treatments.
I had a malo chin put to sleep a few months ago so wouldn't hesitate if I thought that this wasn't fixable and can't be managed until a cure has been found.

[BLS Chins]

Kale wouldn't grow in a desert. Even died it can cause gi problems cause as it ferments in the gut it releases gas which can lead to bloat. Malo can be caused by injury which is why I suggested xrays. You don't know how he broke off the tooth so if he still isn't eating well that's something to check into. Genetic male normally shows up by 5 years old (which you are correct, would have shown up by now) but there are other causes. Chewing pellets and hay dies not use the front teeth. That's why I'm concerned with him not eating still.

[dozla]

I do know how he broke it.. he jumped out of my arms and hit the floor.
He is having a CT scan on the 8th june and then going for an op to remove teeth if CT scan doesn't show up anything else. every time he picks up food and goes to nibble on it he wipes his mouth so obviously still in pain. I have tried everything the vets have suggested so looks like its down the the specialist now.
I can't stop crying as it's all my fault for not holding him tight enough 

[dozla]

had our CT scan done today and discovered that he had really bad mallo in his molars that couldn't be seen without the scan, ive had to let my beautiful boy go to the rainbow bridge. I will never forget my gorgeous cuddly little man , he was my 1st chinchilla and made me fall in love with them.
rest in peace Bubble, I love you xx

[GrayRodent]

I am very sorry about that. It sounds like your pet had a good life for a chinchilla.