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Chinchillas => General Chat => Topic started by: zenz on November 07, 2008, 08:47:59 PM
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Hello all,
My friend got 2 chins that we could not identify their colour following by genetic chart.
Please help us to correct their colour.
First, His parents are Violet(male) and Hetero Beige(female).
From the genetic chart, his colour must be Hetero Biege(violet carrier) but his fur is look like bright homo beight.
His eye is dark red (homo beige's eye).
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The second, her colour is clear white but her eye looks blue grey colour.
Her parents are silver white(bith of them).
Thank you for your kindly suggestion.
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I dont know about the color but I think they are beautiful.
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yes, he would have to be a hetero-beige violet carrier. A homo beige's eyes are usually lighter in color, almost pink, with a whitish ring in the center.
As for the other one, she is a white mosaic as well. The results of a silver mosaic to a silver mosaic would be either standard gray, or mosaic. There is no such thing as a homo-white chin. Blue eyes are possible, but are recessive, which would mean both of her parents would have had to be carriers of the gene. You might want to ask the breeder if blue eyes are in their genetic background.
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Very pretty chin! I love those blue eyes!
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::silly:: It would be good to know what the grandparents and great grandparents are ... color-wise. Often, the color seems to skip a generation or two. If both parents are carrying the same recessive gene, it can often show up in their kits, if they both throw the recessive gene to that kit.
They both look like pink whites to me. Of course a pink white is technically a white/beige cross (cross between a white mosaic and a beige chin usually OR has that in it's family background). Both the pink white (beige/white cross) and the beige have pink ears and pink pads on their feet and pink eyes. Those are constant charestics of a beige and/or a beige/white cross (pink white) chinchilla.
A white mosaic has dark eyes, dark gray ears, dark pads on the feet and usually gray at the base of the tail as well as other places. It is obvious neither of these two are white mosaics, neither have the dark ears or dark eyes.
The blue eyes are really special ... I have two white mosaics with blue eyes. They are very unusual, almost human-like. (Sorry about the cut-down, little chinnies. Chinchillas are better than humans any day. :2funny: )
A homo beige can be almost white or even what looks like a regular beige ... the family history and the eyes tell the story. The eyes of a homo beige are pink with a milky cloud of white circling the darker center of the eye. I'll see if I can find a picture of it in my files and post it. Jamie did an article in one of the Chinchilla Club Magazines on the homo beige and used a picture I had of one of mine to show the eyes. Anyone know which magazine that one was in?
A pink white (beige/white cross) can also be a carrier of another color.
On the first chin, Is the father a pure violet or a violet crossed with another color? If he is a pure violet, then I would think the first chin would be classified as a pink white/violet carrier. If the violet is not a pure violet, there is a chance the first chin is a violet carrier, but you would not know for sure until it produces a violet kit. If the violet father is not a pure violet, the chin would have to be listed as a pink/white (or homo beige)/possible violet carrier.
On the second chin, if both parents are silver white (white mosaic with tips of silver gray or guard hairs of silver gray), there has to be a beige or beige/white cross (pink white) in it's background because of it's pink ears. Again, it would be interesting to know it's background for several generations.
This example is one of many that support the reason for good record keeping!
::wave:: Jo Ann
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I found my picture of my homo beige chinchilla's eye. :::grins::