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Chinchillas => Conformation and Quality => Topic started by: hope on October 24, 2006, 08:13:04 AM

Title: How can you see red tinge on a white chin?
Post by: hope on October 24, 2006, 08:13:04 AM

I have been reading through the article by Gary N & would like to know how you can see whether a white or beige chin has a red tint?
If anyone has a pic of one would they please post it?
Is the red tint the same as when a chin is tinged & has a brown tinge to the coat?
I know whites are supposed to be persil white & if they are creamy are off colour so am wondering if that would be classed as a red tint?

Title: Re: How can you see red tinge on a white chin?
Post by: chinclub on October 24, 2006, 08:30:38 AM

I have never seen a white chinchilla with red tinting.  Yellowish tinting is a common bad trait in whites.  Pink Whites can look creamy also, but usually that is the beige showing through and I don't consider that a bad thing.   Beiges do get a rust tint to them.  Most hetero beiges will begin to get it with age do to oxidization.  I notice it less with very light and homo beige chinchillas, although they do it also.  Oxidization is just expected in older beiges but you don't want it in a beige under a year old.  That would be off color from genetics.

Title: Re: How can you see red tinge on a white chin?
Post by: Jo Ann on October 24, 2006, 09:22:09 AM

::silly::OK ... who put red food coloring in the waterbottle?   :D  Just kidding.

   I agree with Jamie ... I've never see a white with a red tinge either.  Yellowish or creamy, but not red.

   I could understand a beige showing a rusty color might be considered a red tinge (brown + a little red would give you a "rusty" appearance), but using bleach in cleaning waterbottles (with your ebonies) and oxidation, with age, can give that effect.  I need to go back and re-read that article more carefully.

 ::wave::
Jo Ann

Title: Re: How can you see red tinge on a white chin?
Post by: hope on October 24, 2006, 09:31:44 AM

Thank you chinclub  & Jo ann - I have seen whites with the yellow tinting & think I understand about the rust colour in beiges.
I have  also seen the red tinting in ebs & standards but am finding it harder to see in other colours.

Title: Re: How can you see red tinge on a white chin?
Post by: Jo Ann on October 24, 2006, 09:58:25 AM

::silly::Sometimes, putting the chins side by side in a natural lighting (sunlight ... never normal florescent lighting) is the only way to see it, especially if it is a faint discoloring.  You want to be able to see the blue hue rather than a red one.  In the ebonies you want a definite blue-black coloring to put them into breeding.
    Red on a show table will be put aside quickly, no reason to keep breeding one with a reddish hue to it.  Unless ... you have been using bleach to sterilize the bottles ... if that's the case ... quit using bleach and start using heat (dishwasher or boiling them).  ::nod::

 ::wave::
Jo Ann