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Q & A / Re: Chin breed/color identification
« on: July 10, 2015, 09:04:54 PM »
So, I should only breed for shows?  I am not following that logic.  If the breeds could be so horrible, why do pet stores sell them?  I am not exactly interested in breeding for shows, more so to enjoy the gifts of life my chins have to offer myself, themselves and friends, and find the thought of only breeding for shows for the greater good of chinchilla-kind to be repulsive.  They never asked for that.  While some may consider theirs to be stronger, all I asked was whether it was safe to inbreed.  Logic presented by yourself dictates no, however it is scientifically debatable as they have evolved and survived with inbreeding being a source of their sexual behavior.  I am looking for more evidence other than bias.  Is there an geneticist PhD on this forum who can answer?

Also, hereditary diseases have appeared in pedigreed chins, and any animal dies with complications at old age.  While I trust that people know what they are doing in attempting to breed genetic diseases out of chinchilla, or any animal, dna of source chinchillas were still responsible of any and all given malfunctions in the code itself, and will randomly be present no matter how much you breed them with the healthiest of their species.  My point is 1) Why should I conform to a system of heirarchy and 2) How is a pedigree noteworthy to my causes, in relation to the above presented argument.  Does every single chinchilla breeder have a pedigree for their babies?  I could go to a corporate petstore and they would say no.

Obviously, many if not all breeders start from scratch somewhere, and my chinchilla are very beautiful, without doctrine of their heritage.  I was created without regard to my heritage, and am pretty happy to be here. My motives are out of pure inerest in breeding, love of chinchilla, and seeking accomplishment with the creating of a happy chinchilla family.  Disease is by no means a goal, and realize that genetics can be complicated.  However, with your rationalization, it would be logical to get blood tests to know what to expect in their future.  Lets say I did so, and found the likelyhood of complications to be nil, they still wouldn't be deemed worthy of breeding, as there is no piece of paper showing their heritage, and wouldn't be noticed in shows anyways.  It is for this reason, blood testing not being as noteworthy as pedigrees, if not more so, that I would detest participating in anything of the source: they are doing it wrong. Cute babies are awesome.  Where one could argue that I don't have enough money to invest in pedigreed chinchilla, I could argue that a DNA test is the only way to validate their pedigrees being better for all of chinchilla kind, and I sure as heck cannot afford that.

To note, I am not arguing for inbreeding, as obiously to ask I must expect complications.  I am searching for a concrete answer from a scientific source without bias.

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Q & A / Re: Chin breed/color identification
« on: July 10, 2015, 07:17:35 PM »
Thanks!  I am wanting to breed him with my standard grey.  This means that all of their children will be violet carriers.  What is the best way to eventually get more violet chinchilla?  I am referring to outside of inbreeding; if he has a daughter v/c, breeding her to him will yield a 50% chance of more violet kits. Should I buy a violet carrier from somewhere else for breeding, or is inbreeding alright?

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Q & A / Chin breed/color identification
« on: July 09, 2015, 07:52:41 PM »
Hello all.  I bought a chinchilla today.  This is Billy "the kid".  While in the store under the fluorescence he seemed like a violet-beige.  In the house he is very silvery, with barely a hint of beige, but his eyes aren't red like beiges are supposed to be.  They seem somewhat purple, but maybe that is wishful thinking, as I read that purple eye color can develop in sapphire-beiges.  His ears aren't extremely tan on the outside, and have more fur than skin, unlike beiges, who may even have freckels.  With all of my doubts, and thinking he may be a violet, there is still some sort of beige tinge to him....just barely.  One photo makes him seem extremely beige, but none of the photos I have seen online have had the soft-blueness, and yet still remain so solid in the upper body portion.  Any help identifying it's mutation would be awesome.




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